Friday, January 18, 2013

“The Jews Ruin Things”

Nehmat Al Shah and Ghulam Sarwar, Oslo

Our Norwegian correspondent The Observer sends his translation of an article and interview with two respectable high-profile Muslim leaders in Oslo, who have strongly negative opinions about Jews and the worldwide Jewish conspiracy. The Observer notes:

A new trend seems to have developed in the Islamic community in Norway: grab hold of a journalist and speak your mind on issues such as stoning, adultery, apostasy and Jews — and don’t hold back.

This article deals with the twisted views of the imam and the chairman of Norway’s largest mosque. It should also be pointed out that this is the same mosque that the Norwegian police apologized so profusely to last year for the fact that we have freedom of speech in Norway.

The translated article from Dagsavisen:

Imam blames Jews for media coverage

Controversial: Many Norwegians have a negative view on Islam due to Jewish domination of the media. This accusation is made by the imam and by the chairman of Norway’s largest mosque.

We are visiting Central Jamaat-e Ahl-e Sunnat, the mosque with the largest member base in Norway, to talk to its spiritual leader. The mosque was founded in 1977 and currently has more than 5,000 members. The Cultural Center in Grønland in Oslo can accommodate 2500 people during prayers. The spiritual leader, Imam Nehmat Ali Shah is not fluent in Norwegian, so every now and then Chairman, Ghulam Sarwar has to translate from Punjabi.

“But we have the same opinions,” says Sarwar while the imam nods and smiles — he looks both stern and benign at the same time.

The subject of the interview is the relationship between the major religions and Norwegians’ attitudes toward Islam. The Imam begins by explaining that all three heavenly religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are sacred to them. Many people are unaware of this fact, says Sarwar.

Then a statement is made that many will find far more problematic.

“The Jews ruin things”

“Schoolchildren visit the mosque regularly and some of the students may think that we are against Christianity,” says Sarwar. Both of them believe that the school visits confirms their views that Norwegians in general have an inaccurate impression of Islam and Muslims.

“Students, journalists and people like you ask the same questions over and over again — about forced marriage, hijab and whether females can become imams.

“No one can be forcefully compelled to marry in Islam, but parents can assist in finding the right partner, and no, women cannot become imams. People are ignorant because they get their information from the media, and the media only write negatively about Islam. Judaism has a better grip on the media,” says Sarwar.

“Why do the media only write negatively about Islam?”

“Because the media has Jewish roots. The Jews control the media and that’s detrimental. Only a handful of people were behind the movie about Mohammed in the U.S. and they didn’t have a lot of money. So who was financing them, who was backing them?” asks Sarwar, referring to the anti-Islamic film The Innocence of Muslims, produced by a Christian Egyptian Copt living in the USA.

“Anxious people”

“Who are the Jews behind this in your opinion?”

“I couldn’t say. I don’t know exactly who, but there aren’t that many Jews. I read that seven million of them were killed in WW2, so there aren’t that many of them today, because there weren’t that many around back then either.”

“How did the Jews manage to attain such media power?”

“Because of education and business.”

Sarwar translates the question to Nehmat Ali Shah.

“Jews have immense commercial power that stretches around the world,” repeats the Imam through Sarwar.

“What is the relationship generally between Jews and Muslims?”

“It has never been good.”

“Why not?”

“Why did the Germans kill them? One reason is that they are anxious people,” says Sarwar.

Wants dialogue

“But at the same time you do say positive things about Judaism, that it is sacred?”

“Yes, we’re not saying that Jews should be killed or anything to that effect. Moses is our prophet, but some people only want to ruin things,” says Sarwar.

“The Quran says that we should accept all the prophets of Judaism, Christianity and Islam — from Moses to Jesus. If we speak ill of the prophets we would be contradicting our own books, but it’s not like that for Jews and Christians,” adds Al Shah.

“What do the media want to achieve by writing negatively about Islam?”

“They want to prevent Islam from growing.”

The Imam confirms what Sarwar is saying

“Dialogue is very important to us. You may find disagreements, but that doesn’t mean that we should stop talking to each other. Dialogue is the only way,” says Chairman Ghulam Sarwar while Imam Ali Shah Nehmat nods affirmatively.

Reacts sharply

Rune Ottosen, a professor of journalism from the University College of Oslo, reacts strongly when he hears about the remarks made by the two leaders of the Mosque:

“This sounds like anti-Semitic conspiracy theories of the worst kind,” he says.

He points out that the Norwegian media landscape is dominated by NRK, TV 2, Schibsted and A-pressen.

“The fact that they can actually think in such terms is so far removed from reality that I find it difficult to take them seriously. It is impossible to debate on such a basis,” says Ottosen.

He is willing to admit that the media coverage can be skewed and refers to own research about media coverage of Islam and Muslims.

“Of course prejudices exist, and yes, let’s talk about it. But the debate needs to be based on an actual knowledge of the Norwegian media landscape. These allegations are something entirely different. When such prominent figures say things like that, it just reaffirms that there are fundamental anti-Semitic sentiments within the Muslim community.”


Michael C said...

So the Imam lies boldly about Christianiity and Judaism being "sacred" to Islam.

His assertion is not borne out by the Manual of Islamic Law, which tells us that Christianity and Judaism are

"remnant cults bearing the names of formerly valid religions" (Manual w4.1(2))

Now we know how seriously to take anything he says.

Findalis said...

The Islamic Creed:

When you cannot do anything right just blame the Jew for your failures. The loony left will believe everything you say and will join you in hatred.

Anonymous said...

One of the most salient things is how very ugly these people are (think of all those street protest pix or the snapshot of the recent "Asian groomers" in GB). With that white whatchmacallit maternity dress on, the man on the right looks like he is coming to term of his pregnancy.

The loud silence, the taboo against noticing this ugliness in contrast to populations acknwledged as among the handsomest in the world (Scandinavians and the English, primarily) is yet another form of Hitler's revenge. The Jews were also less handsome, on average, than the surrounding "Aryans," though twice as handsome as the new Muz-imports, probably due to 2000 of Euro-genes mixed into the Semitic gene pool. Yet the Nazis seized on the average physical difference to launch a blanket of their famous "ugly Jew" caricatures in Der Sturmer etc.

And now, the blowback, though a different people are reaping the benefit. Thus man's eternal stupidity. Always riding the pendulum 50-100 years too late
Takuan Seiyo

Anonymous said...

No, you fools. We have a negative view on Islam because of Islam, period.

goethechosemercy said...

Islam is profane.
Mohammed is a false prophet.
Muslim culture is corrupt.
And Muslims are indeed ugly. I think every anti-Jewish poster on this site should consider submitting right away.
They should fit right in to the Ummah.
Perfect truth, right?

Max Modine said...

#MyJihad is to overcome my “Islamaphobia” every time I see a Muzlim warrior wearing a maternity dress. My instinctive and automatic concern regarding said maternity dress’s concealment capacity is worrisome. Are there doctors available to help with my problem? Are there modern medicines yet developed to allay my irrational reaction? Please advise. Max.